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Communicating with Computers

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Notes written afterwards, by LionKimbro, who was session convener.


I introduced Wikipedia. "This is made by 100's of thousands of people."


How is it that they can organize so effectively? It's because they communicate by documents, not messages.


Documents are things that are referenced, re-referenced, collecting information and connections. Emphasise: Connections. Anyone can come by and say, "This thing is connected with that thing." Anyone.


Online groups (can) collaborate and connect themselves to one another. Geek society has set itself up to do this as a matter of course -- connection is the norm, rather than the exception.  (see: Havoc Pennington, "Working on Free Software," section "Don't start by working on your own project," Eric Raymond's "How to Become a Hacker"," section "No problem should ever have to be solved twice," )


We talked about privacy. The older generation fears visibility, the younger generation lives in visibility.  Lion points to "Internet Bonding," the idea that an Internet presence builds assurance, for good or for ill.  "If you don't have an Internet presence, people can look at you funny.  I got my first job out of the dot com crash after someone saw my Internet presence, and decided to hire me;  This was not through a job employment site.  I think people will forgive what you did at that party.  As we grow more transparent, I believe we'll grow more tolerant, communicative, and understanding, as well."


We talked about face-to-face vs. mailing list vs. wiki vs. blog, and how they work, and so on. (see also: "Theatre of the Mediums.")  We talked about the inefficiencies of private email conversations, why people set up public discussion lists, and so on.


We created a wiki by oddwiki.


(and other things)



Sorry folks, not the best write-up in the world. But it IS a write-up.


I don't consider this session a "success;" Too many questions and answers about the why and the wherefore, and too little training (I felt) on the actual doing it. Some people have difficulty typing. I have difficulty with the "one mouse button" of the Macintosh interface. (How do I open something in a new tab?) All in all, I find it frustrating. How can I help people use their computers?!?


Maybe I should just set up everyone on a tech learning mailing list, to continue the discussion over the long term, online?


-- LionKimbro


While this session was not a "success," it has led to many wonderful things, .... -- LionKimbro

Oooooo, tell us more! ~ Amy



Comments (3)

Anonymous said

at 9:19 am on Aug 28, 2007

Was there enough interest to convene a follow-on session for people who want more hands-on wiki experience?

Anonymous said

at 11:34 am on Sep 1, 2007

yes, please!!!

John Abbe said

at 11:35 pm on Sep 1, 2007

As soon as the announcement e-mail list is set up, i'll post some proposed times for a first Harvesting phone call. In the meantime, you could try contacting anyone on the Tech Team and asking for some one-on-one help - http://storyfieldteam.pbwiki.com/Tech+Team

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